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I think you mean, Deus Vult, or perhaps For the Emperor!
Vagrant Hero- Member Maximus
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Nah, we're xenophiles now. We want friends to fuck shit up with.Vagrant Hero wrote:I think you mean, Deus Vult, or perhaps For the Emperor!
The Clans- Member Maximus
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I mean the Xengari would love to have people to be their friends, you know as long as the stood far away and did everything the Xengari told them to do, you know friends. Totally not in any way servants or slaves or battle thralls nope, definitely friends. Definitely.
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Joe Joerson wrote:I mean the Xengari would love to have people to be their friends, you know as long as the stood far away and did everything the Xengari told them to do, you know friends. Totally not in any way servants or slaves or battle thralls nope, definitely friends. Definitely.
Well, it doesn't seem un-friendly. Just that friends need their space sometimes, and other friends should respect that. And sure, ordering people around may seem a bit off-putting, but that's basically what important people do anyway, so surely something could be worked out where the Xengari only tell friends to do things that are smart and benefit both of them!
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Smash the state.Joe Joerson wrote:I mean the Xengari would love to have people to be their friends, you know as long as the stood far away and did everything the Xengari told them to do, you know friends. Totally not in any way servants or slaves or battle thralls nope, definitely friends. Definitely.
The Clans- Member Maximus
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As I think that the general trend will be in this Roleplay will be a gradually alliance and empire forming like what happened in the Paradox Forums Roleplay.
Which I have been toying around with the Idea of the Xengari vassalizing an alien race, likely one of the "fledgling empires". I think Dragonsploof might be the only one from the Paradox Forums Roleplay who was one of the vassals of my race back then. We worked out a pretty good galactic superpower cold war that went on and was pretty fun. It was my race and their vassals against an alliance of empires. Though admittedly the alliance wasn't all fun times as they included some less than ideal states among the bunch. There was also a non-aligned faction floating off somewhere.
Caspoi and Zuko were part of the opposing alliance I think. The players on each side even made little chats where they could communicate in secret, it was great.
In any case I was considering doing vassalizing again as we all worked together last time such things happened. But yes friends of the Xengari.
Which I have been toying around with the Idea of the Xengari vassalizing an alien race, likely one of the "fledgling empires". I think Dragonsploof might be the only one from the Paradox Forums Roleplay who was one of the vassals of my race back then. We worked out a pretty good galactic superpower cold war that went on and was pretty fun. It was my race and their vassals against an alliance of empires. Though admittedly the alliance wasn't all fun times as they included some less than ideal states among the bunch. There was also a non-aligned faction floating off somewhere.
Caspoi and Zuko were part of the opposing alliance I think. The players on each side even made little chats where they could communicate in secret, it was great.
In any case I was considering doing vassalizing again as we all worked together last time such things happened. But yes friends of the Xengari.
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I liked the faction that was composed entirely of science directorates, which was the one I wanted to join. We could've made a science federation, man. For science!
I would not be opposed to vassalization, if a legitimate argument could be made that would make me feel inclined to accept it. Overwhelming force and the threat of annihilation being one of the most likely to succeed, and on the condition that the Emperor be allowed to stay in power as a direct vassal.
However, if we wanted to make warfare more common, we should probably establish some rules for it. I have some ideas for what we could do, and it revolves mostly around player interaction, moderator adjudication, and some luck as well.
I would not be opposed to vassalization, if a legitimate argument could be made that would make me feel inclined to accept it. Overwhelming force and the threat of annihilation being one of the most likely to succeed, and on the condition that the Emperor be allowed to stay in power as a direct vassal.
However, if we wanted to make warfare more common, we should probably establish some rules for it. I have some ideas for what we could do, and it revolves mostly around player interaction, moderator adjudication, and some luck as well.
Vagrant Hero- Member Maximus
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Have it on my desk by Monday. And by that I mean next monthVagrant Hero wrote:I liked the faction that was composed entirely of science directorates, which was the one I wanted to join. We could've made a science federation, man. For science!
I would not be opposed to vassalization, if a legitimate argument could be made that would make me feel inclined to accept it. Overwhelming force and the threat of annihilation being one of the most likely to succeed, and on the condition that the Emperor be allowed to stay in power as a direct vassal.
However, if we wanted to make warfare more common, we should probably establish some rules for it. I have some ideas for what we could do, and it revolves mostly around player interaction, moderator adjudication, and some luck as well.
The Clans- Member Maximus
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I'm going completely offline for a week or two, after Monday. Probably not going to play in the RP in that time, but I shall try finding a chance. Just ignore the artists for a while.
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You have my word as an officer and a gentleman to wait until you return to enslave the weaklings, and I'm certain that the rest of the forum will echo this sentiment.
I hope things go well for you.
I hope things go well for you.
Vagrant Hero- Member Maximus
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Agreed, some sportsmanship must be shown in our attempts to take over the world.
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The Nineteen Grandmasters' election of the new Grandest Master is going to take place in the meantime.
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Well thank you for the info Zuko, I'll try not to kill all of the artists in the mean time.
As well I am interested in theses ideas for combat and rules, if haven't so already expect to see me posting whatever my ideas were when I started this.
EDIT: Found it. In Skozzy's "HOW DO WAR" topic. They asked five questions then I answered them this was around the start of Aftermath, though I don't know if all of you read it, I'll post it here in spoilers.
While I said these if no one wants anything like theses guidelines then that fine. But just sharing what I had thought about before.
As well I am interested in theses ideas for combat and rules, if haven't so already expect to see me posting whatever my ideas were when I started this.
EDIT: Found it. In Skozzy's "HOW DO WAR" topic. They asked five questions then I answered them this was around the start of Aftermath, though I don't know if all of you read it, I'll post it here in spoilers.
- Skozzy's Questions:
- Skozzy wrote:
1: How is a winner Decided?
2: How Much effect Douse Tech have on it?
3: Can we totally remove someone from the universe?
4: Is it More about numbers of Debating Skills?
5: Are the debates about the whole war or just Battles?
- My Answers:
- Joe Joerson wrote:1. The Winner is decided by debate, the defender in a war has veto power over suggestions. If no decision is made and discussion is... ...uncourteous a moderator may be called in to arbitrate the dispute. In the case that one of the members of the dispute is a moderator another moderator or the admin will arbitrate.
2. Tech has the impact of allow an advantage however this can be negated by other such things. This advantage can be decided by the roleplayers. It is important to note that a high tech level does NOT mean a high military tech level, it applies to their general scientific capabilities and to their amount of technology, as well their application of that technology.
3. Yes, you can completely remove a player's empire, however if that player wishes, they can continue playing as a resistance movement, another Empire, or a hidden colony if they make preparations before hand.
4. Debating skills, however the numbers are there to guide the discussion. As while numbers matter, it is important to note that in most cases an Empire won't use it's full military might unless it is in a death struggle with another power. As such Empire normally fear attack from their rivals, so you see such cases in history of Emperors and Kings fighting or paying off their neighbors so that they can attack and fight the ones they actually want to invade.
5. They can be about either. If the people wish to take the conflict as a series of battles which the outcome of which will effect the war, that is fine. If the people wish to take the conflict as an overarching conflict with many themes and general movement that will decide the war, that is also fine. You may however wish to decide the war then go into battles as what kind of victory, defeat or stalemate. Are your two Empire evenly matched? Or are they disparate by does the more powerful one wish to pour all their strength into one war, leaving frontiers undefended? These questions and questions like them are for the players to decide.
While I said these if no one wants anything like theses guidelines then that fine. But just sharing what I had thought about before.
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We'll see what the Vagrant produces war rule wise and then make the two systems fight in a round robin tournament. Yes that doesn't make sense. No I don't care.
The Clans- Member Maximus
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No lets make this round robin tournament work, every post as many rule sets witch can't be objectively judged as possible. Because that will solve all the problems, and not create any.
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My proposed rule system:
Step 1) Everyone posts their hypothetical plans for their respective forces
Step 2) Spend hundreds of dollars on flying everyone to one area to assemble in person
Step 3) All players in the relevant battle will fight to the death to determine who decides on how the battle progresses
Step 4) Repeat until only one player remains, who will continue the entire roleplay single-handedly
Step 5) Make Space Great Again
Step 1) Everyone posts their hypothetical plans for their respective forces
Step 2) Spend hundreds of dollars on flying everyone to one area to assemble in person
Step 3) All players in the relevant battle will fight to the death to determine who decides on how the battle progresses
Step 4) Repeat until only one player remains, who will continue the entire roleplay single-handedly
Step 5) Make Space Great Again
Offizier Necro- Hyper Member
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Step 8 ) Worry about your life choices
Zuko Darkborn- Primus Moderator
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Hahaha, I would love to see Skozzy's Questions become canon. Like, in a holy book of forum rules, we have one section labelled "Skozzy," and each of the five questions, and there is a little discussion and story added to it, "and from the heavens, God answered, thou shalt debate until a victor is found, but knowest that thou defender has thy holy power of veto!" And so it was known, an so it was, and so it shall be.
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And yea, if you come across a lone ship within your holy space, thou response shall be to cast your vpice upon them with great fury and warp in progressively more and larger chariots until they leave.
The Clans- Member Maximus
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It feels slightly odd as everyone seems to be changing their avatars, while sit with the same one. Just sitting here with my six eyes and face tentacles...
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Joe Joerson wrote:It feels slightly odd as everyone seems to be changing their avatars, while sit with the same one. Just sitting here with my six eyes and face tentacles...
The face tentacles are quite adorable, since you seem to have two pairs on the top of your head that are reminiscent of a mustache or something.
Vagrant Hero- Member Maximus
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don't worry, I have not changed my (non-)avatar yet and Zuko still keeps his.
Caspoi- Primus
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...I still can't decide on a final avatar.
Offizier Necro- Hyper Member
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Well good luck in your search. I am likely going to stick with mine for as long as feasible.
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By the way I have been thinking about reviving my old Khendros Empire as a sort of prolouge to the old paradox forums roleplay. Do you have any thought's about that?
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There are multiple ways to go about that. You could make them be a stagnant ascendancy, with lots of former territory that people, like the Yuxun, could find. Could also just add them as a dead race, again with a focus on discovery. Etc.
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I was thinking of more along the lines of Before they got their great empire, while they were still a Young species on the galactic playfield.
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